Hi, and welcome to the mtgUK & Ireland Facebook Group for the trading and selling of Magic The Gathering.
Please kindly take a moment to read the following important information before posting, and add us on Facebook if you have not done so already – https://www.facebook.com/manaleakcom
UK & Ireland MTG Cards For Trade & Sale – Group Rules & Guidelines
1. Please remember to use the “OFFICIAL mtgUK FEEDBACK & STAR RATING FOR TRADES” document. Remember to rate others that you have traded with and add your name to the list so that others can rate their transactions with you.
2. You may also be interested in the following useful UK Magic The Gathering Facebook Groups.
3. Please only post Haves & Wants threads in this group, and keep comments specifically relating to the haves and wants of any thread. You may only have one active Haves & Wants post at any given time. Please combine all your information in to this one post.
Please join the mtgUK & Ireland Community & Trading Discussions group if you have any trading or general MTG questions and comments, for example; asking for trading vouches and references, discussing card values, fake cards and posting on matters that affect the MTG community at large etc.
4. To start trading, please create a document inside this group and list your Haves & Wants. To do this, simply click on “Files” on the top right of this screen, then “Create Doc“. Please DO NOT “Upload File” or “Add File”.
- Posts seeking to buy or sell any items must quote prices in pounds sterling. They can be firm prices or open to offers.
- Posts offering trades must indicate both haves and wants.
- Trade/sale agreements are only considered binding when both parties have exchanged addresses/payment details.
Please do not have off-site links in your Haves & Wants list. For a short explanation on why we do not allow off-site links in Haves & Wants list, please see footer notes in the pinned post at the top of this page.
5. Fraudsters may operate in this group. If the member has low or no ratings on the official feedback document then please DO NOT send anything (money, cards, etc) until you are confident that it is safe to do so. Please ask for personal vouches and references in the mtgUK & Ireland Community & Trading Discussions group. If in doubt, please ask a member of the admin team for advice.
7. Please vet Facebook accounts before accepting friends requests, and make sure that they are not fake accounts. Please note that having fake accounts on your friends list will make them seem more credible (mutual friends) to potential targets. You can find some information on how to spot fake Facebook accounts in the footer notes below.
8. For every trade/sale, please make sure that you exchange addresses, this will signify that the deal is agreed upon. A trade/sales agreement is considered binding as soon as both parties exchange postal addresses.
9. It is strongly recommended that, for the protection of themselves and others, traders should send their cards by recorded delivery and retain their proof of postage. For higher value trades, special delivery or extra insurance should be considered.
The seller/sender assumes responsibility for the safe delivery of all sales/trades (inc. damage during transit). Any claim of loss by the receiving party put forward after a reasonable period (2 weeks) must be addressed or a ban will occur. Cards replaced or cash equivalent or trade cards returned are recommended solutions.
The seller/sender is not responsible if a non-tracked method of exchange is actively chosen by the intended recipient (e.g. tracking service offered, but the intended recipient chooses non-tracked option instead and the sender highlights the forfeit of responsibility) AND the sender can show proof of postage.
10. Trading is to be done at your own risk. We recommend that you use the rating system to determine who sends 1st, or if you both send at the same time. Always send your cards well protected to avoid the risk of damages, and communicate clearly what postal service (e.g 1st Class, Recorded Delivery etc) you using.
Always print your FULL return address at the back of your envelope, and always obtain proof of postage. Here is a quick guide to trading and posting online please read A Guide to Trading Magic: The Gathering Cards Online Safely by Scott Ferguson
11. This trading group has been set up for private and personal use only, therefore please refrain from any commercial activity including posting sales links to other websites e.g eBay and MTG sales sites. Please act within the spirit of the community. Members of this group are very strict about SPAM.
12. Please only offer genuine MTG products (singles, boosters etc) and/or money for trades and sales. Please refrain from offering anything else e.g. toasters for transactions.
13. The sale or trade of items not currently in-hand is not permitted.
14. The trading of proxie and custom cards are strictly prohibited in this group. Please do not buy, sell or trade proxie or custom cards.
15. This group is for the trading and selling of Magic: The Gathering items only. Auctions are strictly prohibited.
16. Please feel free to invite fellow players and collectors whom you feel will also benefit from being a part of this group.
17. You may only have one active Haves & Wants post at any given time. You may not “bump” your post more than once within the space of 24 hours. Where ever possible, please do not try to “bump” your posts, instead find other posts that have items you want and comment on that post with a link to your Haves & Wants document.
18. Please note that members will try to message you with offers, their messages might be in the “Others” folder of your Messages and not your “Inbox“.
19. Members are expected to treat one another as they would like to be treated themselves. Please be polite, considerate, and above all respectful. Please refrain from trolling, provoking, or baiting other members and abide by all admin requests.
Any breach of this may lead to a suspension and/or banning from the Manaleak mtgUK community network.
20. If you can not resolve trade/sale issues you maybe having with each other on this group please refer to an admin (that’s what they are here for). The admins will try and open a dialogue with both parties to resolve any issues. If the party in question refuses to work with the admins to resolve the issue they will face suspension (still on the group but named and not to be traded with).
The party then has 48 hours to respond to the admin in relation to the issue. If they still refused to work with the admin then the case with be referred to the authorities as a case of internet fraud and for them to deal with.
You can find a list of our admins by clicking on the top right hand side “Members” link (normally proceeded by some numbers), then on the “All Members” drop down menu at the top middle, and select “Admins“.
21. Please make sure that you do not have any admins on your Facebook block list. If you have an admin on your block list then you will be banned. Blocking admins prevents us from mediating cases and keeping the community safe. You can find the list of our admins by using the method above and in the pinned post of our trades groups.
22. You can find a list of all the useful UK Magic The Gathering Facebook Groups here.
A NOTE TO MODERATORS: Please do not approve accounts requesting to join that are only a few days/months old and have few/no mutual friends already in the group. They are most likely SPAM bots. If you do not know or know of the person requesting to join, then please leave their request on Pending and we will take care of it. You can find more information about this in the footer notes below.
If you need any help with anything then please do not hesitate to message us, we are here to help & serve the MTG community.
Re: No off-site linking in Haves & Wants lists
The rules are in place because people complain to us on a regular basis that they do not want to be clicking on links that takes them off-site to view peoples Haves & Wants. Here is just an example of some of the reasons, and please keep in mind that there are many more reasons:
- People do not want to be downloading different document formats because they may not have the relevant software to view them. Then there is the matter of the loading time to open the files etc.
- Not everyone on here is computer literate and some are worried about links and files that they are not familiar with. Please keep in mind that many different demographics use this group, and not all are comfortable with the workings of the internet.
- While some sites may be safe, we do not have the man power to check and make sure that every site is safe. As it stands, we currently do not have the man power to manage things if we open the floodgates by allowing links to x sites.
Re: Undelivered Mail and Responsibilities
The Royal Mail states that it is always the responsibility of the seller in relation to how an item(s) is sent, and it is stated in the consumer rights law that the supplier or sender of an item(s) is responsible for it arriving.
We therefore strongly advise that First Class Recorded is the minimum delivery service used.
- It is the responsibility of the SENDER to make sure that their items are securely packed and is delivered to the recipients address.
- If the package was sent with tracking and the Royal Mail states that it has NOT been delivered then its the senders responsibility to sort out.
- If the package was sent with tracking and the Royal Mail states that it has been delivered then its the recipients responsibility to sort out.
The seller/sender assumes delivery responsibilities for all sales/trades. Any claim of loss by the receiving party put forward after a reasonable period (2 weeks) must be addressed or a ban will occur. Cards replaced or cash equivalent or trade cards returned are recommended solutions.
The seller/sender is not responsible if a non-tracked method of exchange is actively chosen by the intended recipient (e.g. tracking service offered, but buyer chooses non-tracked option instead) AND the sender can show proof of postage.
Re: How to Spot Fake Facebook Accounts
1. Look at photos in the profile. If there is only one or two photos, and/or they seem generic, then it is most likely a fake profile.
2. Look for status updates, wall posts and comments. If the user has not updated a status for quite a long time and hasn’t been involved in any wall posting or commenting of other statuses, it means that the profile is likely to be fake.
3. Look at the recent activities. If the user has just been adding random people and making new friends, then its a sign that the profile is fake.
4. Check the information area. If there are no links regarding education institutions or workplace and that the user is looking for dating and interested in both men and women, then its a sign that the profile is fake.
5. Check the users birthday. Birth dates such as 1/1/XX or 31/12/XX are common amongst fake accounts.
6. Fake profiles of girls usually have a contact number in their information area. Especially if the profile picture is of a sexual nature.
7. Look out for recent wall posts, if u see loads of people asking…’THANKS FOR THE ADD… DO I KNOW YOU?’, then its a sign that the profile is fake.
8. Look at what the user has “Liked”, using and “Liking” applications such as Farmville, Pet Society and Poker pages, are a good sign that the profile is fake.
9. If the account has only been created within the last year or so, then its a sign that the profile is fake.
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